Ротбард и Конкин: дискуссия

синдикат · 07.01.2011 12:14

Наткнулся на интересные статьи, которые помогли мне лучше понять разницу между "анархо-капитализмом" и "агоризмом", а также мотивацию Ротбарда, когда тот создавал "Либертарианскую партию". Сам я анархо-коммунист; не поддерживаю Ротбарда и не считаю его анархистом - или считаю очень непоследовательным анти-этатистом; контр-экономику и операции на чёрном рынке Конкина считаю недостаточными для достижения анархии.

Murray Rothbard, "Konkin on Libertarian Strategy" - http://www.anthonyflood.com/rothbardkonkin.htm

Интересные цитаты:

"This is Konkin’s astonishing view that working for wages is somehow non-market or anti-libertarian, and would disappear in a free society <...> how he can say that a voluntary sale of one’s labor for money is somehow illegitimate or unlibertarian <...> it is simply absurd for him to think that in the free market of the future, wage-labor will disappear."

"He is against joint stock companies because they are organized hierarchically, and seems to be against all other voluntary organizations for similar reasons. He not only opposes wages, he also wants only individual alliances, and not organizations at all."

"More important, I see no other conceivable strategy for the achievement of liberty than political action. <...> Violent revolution will not work in a democratic political system. <...> action must also be taken to roll back the state, specifically to repeal State laws. Like price control or the withholding tax. Or even like marijuana laws."

"<...> so a Libertarian Party provides a welcome alternative, of actually permitting us to engage in libertarian political action."

"So the Libertarian Party is vital if not necessary to repealing statism. <...> a militant and abolitionist LP in control of Congress could wipe out all the laws overnight. <...> No other strategy for liberty can work."

"Konkin cripples libertarian effectiveness by creating moral problems where none exist: by indicting as non-libertarian or non-market a whole slew of institutions necessary to the triumph of liberty: organization, hierarchy, wage-work, granting of funds by libertarian millionaires, and a libertarian political party."

Samuel Edward Konkin III, "Reply to Rothbard" - http://www.anthonyflood.com/konkinreplytorothbard.htm

Интересные цитаты:

"selling one’s personal activity under another’s direction and supervision encourages dependency and authoritarian relationships"

"The agorist imperative is to transform the White into Black. Nothing could be clearer. To do so is to create a libertarian society. What else can a libertarian society mean in economic terms but removing market activity from the control of the State? Market activity not under control of the State is black market. Market activity under the control of the State is white market and we are against it."

"Rothbard’s claim that political action is superior and preferable to civil disobedience in the lightening of the levy is an incredible distortion of history coming from the one who converted me to revisionism. There has never been a single repeal of taxation or significant cut (save a few minor ones in recent years for purposes of Keynesian tinkering and now Lafferite “less gets more”) that did not result from mass refusal to pay or the threat of such disobedience. Furthermore, political action has resulted in shifts in the tax base and higher total plunder—such as the famously spectacular debacle of Proposition 13 here in California."

"Rothbard’s statement that violent revolution (what other kind is there against a ruling class—would he like to mention an Establishment that stepped down peacefully?) never succeeded in history distorts either the language or history."

"Finally, the Libertarian Party. Rothbard says he will “assume for the moment that a libertarian political party . . . is not evil per se.” I wonder how open he would be to assuming the State is not evil per se and then continuing the discussion of some legislation, let us see where it leads him. It seems to lead to the wonder of repeal of laws."

"Now Rothbard’s historical acumen seems to have failed him again. Since when did the State repeal anything from the Corn Laws to suburban property tax unless it had authority to maintain that law? First comes counter-economic scofflawing, then mass civil disobedience, then the threat of insurrection, and only then repeal."

"“A militant and abolitionist LP in control of Congress” begs the question—how did it get there? How could it get there?"

anarchist IVANOV · 10.01.2011 00:27

Спасибо за ссылочки. Надо бы как-нибудь по случаю запариться и перевести на русский.

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Ротбард и Конкин: дискуссия

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